I did it....I finally did it.

"themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles" (themanwithsauce)
06/18/2019 at 18:38 • Filed to: None

A year after starting this job, I finally achieved something I myself said was impossible. I made a ceramic coating/sealant for cars that can be applied via an automatic car wash. You may all thank me here in this thread, or when I receive awards and royalties for years to come.

Pic is not mine, we haven’t made the ad print for ours yet. But my boss’s truck has a very full finish due to being washed multiple times a day and his truck looked brand new. He literally couldn’t fathom how it happened. Best part is I only had 2 out of 3 components online. The third and final part would’ ve added even more gloss after the wash.

Oh, and for those squeamish about automatic washes, this means the wash protects your own car from.....well, the automatic wash. It’s not as hard as a professional ceramic application, but damn does it come close, especially for an automatic application.

Now, if you'll excuse me, it is BBQ and beer time.

DISCUSSION (54)

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 18:42

Is it actually ceramic or is it an SiO2-based thing?

WRXasaurus > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 18:43

Congratulations on the achievement. The only question I have is this something that will trickle into a bunch of auto car washes or is it prohibitively expensive to a comparable car wash coating?

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
06/18/2019 at 18:44

It is not literal ceramics. Too brittle. None of them are, but they share hardness similar to a ceramic piece. Mine has siloxanes in it in addition to silicones, synthetic waxes, and more. UV light (from the sun) cures it. It’s wild.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 18:45

Be prepared for the onslaught of questions on longevity and durability

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > WRXasaurus
06/18/2019 at 18:46

It will remain proprietary to the company that I design for. What washes it ends up in? Honestly we'll be testing in West Michigan and southern Florida for at least half a year.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2019 at 18:47

Al ready went through the ringer at work.

Chariotoflove > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 18:50

...very full finish...

I think you mean “dull”. And that’s fantastic. So then, the finish gets applied to the glass as well. How does it affect the glass? Does it create a buildup over time? Does it help shed water like Rain-X?

DipodomysDeserti > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 18:51

“Industry Powder”?

What the fuck?

CompactLuxuryFan > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 18:52

Now I just need a car with paint worth a damn :-/

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Chariotoflove
06/18/2019 at 18:52

Yes to rainx, but while repeated applications will repair the coating in there, I don't think it can build up too much. The full layer will resist the leveled and coupling agents so where the coating is intact, it won't bond and where it is failing, it will get patched. It also only lasts a week or two right now. Our car wash is a subscription car wash so most people wash two or three times a week.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > DipodomysDeserti
06/18/2019 at 18:55

Ever worked by a dirty plant? Soot and iron dust in the air is no joke.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 18:56

Where do I sign up.

I often hit up a carwash (like really often) for a quick spray wax on the ST.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > CompactLuxuryFan
06/18/2019 at 18:56

Literally saw a guy in a blue redline go through and stare at his reflection in the door panels for like 5 minutes afterwards. It does an amazing job at recovering a worn clearco at.

AestheticsInMotion > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 18:58

This.

To this day the biggest cleaning contract I’ve received was from a government facility on the docks of Seattle that left their vehicles out 24/7, surrounded by miles of industrial plants. Made me glad I wasn't there every day breathing the air

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
06/18/2019 at 18:58

You need to be in FREEDOMLAND to get it. And it won't be back online for a week or two. Then limited rollout in Michigan and Florida. Then Nebraska and California. Then Nationwide.

DipodomysDeserti > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 18:59

If you want to test some samples out in a really dirty and dusty place, like say, Arizona, on a vehicle that gets really dirty- maybe something like a Jeep with a really vibrant paint color, yellow for instance, I might know a guy.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 19:01

I mean... I am within 15 miles of freedomland and come down often lol.

I even have a freedom mailing address

DipodomysDeserti > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 19:01

Thankfully, no.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > DipodomysDeserti
06/18/2019 at 19:05

Heh. My very yellow FoST is a good test vehicle for the same reason.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
06/18/2019 at 19:06

If you're in Michigan any time soon, I'll tell you which ones have it. Granted, if your car is exceptionally dirty, your best bet will be to do a cheap wash first and then get the expensive one with the ceramic.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 19:07

I can buy that. I clay bar’d my F-150 a week or two after I took delivery. An astounding amount of contamination came out of the finish of a new vehicle.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 19:09

Better living through chemistry.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com
06/18/2019 at 19:12

Yeah. This coating is a bit softer than professional ceramic applications, but it will trap those particulates in itself and fall off the car rather than get embedded in clearcoat.

CaptDale - is secretly British > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 19:12

Very interesting. I hope this makes a good go and gets it way out here. My boss takes his Corvette through the fancier auto car wash here at least once a week. Would be interesting to see how the coating helps.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com
06/18/2019 at 19:12

Damn straight.

His Stigness > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 19:14

Is it similar to all the pressure washer activated sealants out there like Gyeon Wetcoat?

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > CaptDale - is secretly British
06/18/2019 at 19:14

I can assure you it would. Seeing the swirls on my boss's truck go from making the truck look like a matte denim blue back to a deep metallic blue was mind blowing. The flake was popping quite brilliantly. Meanwhile my focus was so bright you could see it through solid objects again.

CaptDale - is secretly British > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 19:17

Hmmmm very cool. I would definatley like to see that on his yellow Vette and see what it does to my beater Audi.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > His Stigness
06/18/2019 at 19:17

Nope. Not pressure activated in the least. It is applied via multiple fan sprayers. It is a multi stage product though so the last step on its own won't result in the proper coating. Trust me, R&D for this one was.....ugly.

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 19:26

This sounds pretty cool. I presume that this would be worked into a touchless wash lineup? I can’t imagine brushes could also be involved and not wreck it. What’s the timeline to market now that the R&D is done?

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 19:27

What would you say was the most challenging aspect of getting it to work?

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely
06/18/2019 at 19:28

The last half of the wash is touchl ess and yes, this is in the touchl ess half. Rest of year will be scale up an d fine tuning locally. Next year will be controlled rollouts. Nationwide in 2021. So long as it all goes to plan.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back
06/18/2019 at 19:31

Fi nding the raw materials. No less than 5 highly specialized chemicals were sourced just for this concept. I had a LOT of meetings and handshakes and dinners and lunches and plant visits to make the deals to get what I needed.

I should add that I am an introvert.

Svend > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 19:33

Curious to see how this holds up.

Scratch resistance, hardness, durability, etc...

His Stigness > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 19:35

Are you going to stick this in bottles and sell it to consumers? Because it sounds awesome from a detailers perspective.

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 19:38

Please remember us little guys that cheered you on when you are using Benjamins for toilet paper. I wish you well on your journey to success.

SPAMBot - Horse Doctor > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 19:40

Have you tested on bright ass, slightly damaged, soft, single stage paint? Asking for a friend... haha

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > SPAMBot - Horse Doctor
06/18/2019 at 19:56

Not yet....but we shall see! I did test on peeling clearcoat purple minivan. The results were mixed. Clearcoat/paint is necessary for this to work.

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 20:15

Sounds like a nightmare for me haha

Hopefully your new product takes off, something like this would be a godsend for me. I live in apartment so I don’t have the space or resources to really properly wash m y car, and even then I rarely have time or patience to do it. I also work in an industrial environment so my car is constantly covered in very fine dust and grime. I rely heavily on automatic car washes but I limit my use because of clear coat damage and because they rarely get everything off/looking really good.

TheRealBicycleBuck > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 20:17

Does it cause the same nighttime glare that RainX does? I’m in the no RainX camp because of the glare it causes in misty conditions at night.

TheRealBicycleBuck > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 20:23

Alright, a car washguy should know it’s a wringer!

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > TheRealBicycleBuck
06/18/2019 at 20:38

Yes, except I had to answer to the ringer, as in the wash expert, asking me a million questions about how I challen ged his 30 years’ experience in car washing.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > TheRealBicycleBuck
06/18/2019 at 20:39

No clue yet. Most likely not unless your glass is low quality.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back
06/18/2019 at 21:02

What city do you live in? It might take a few years but eventually it will be spread to certain washes. Long story short, my company sells two models of car wash - franchised and non. The non-franchise sites have the same equipment, but might not have the same chemicals or upgrades. So even if you don't live bear a Tommy's Express, it might get used at a wash nearby.

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 21:53

I live in Houston, TX.

Idk if the Tommy’s Express was a joke or random example , but there happens to be ONE in the area ...on the exact opposite side of the city from where I live which is a 45 minute drive with no traffic. The common franchises here that I’m familiar with are Mister Car W ash, iShine, and Blue W ave.

DipodomysDeserti > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com
06/18/2019 at 22:12

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themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > His Stigness
06/18/2019 at 23:02

Maybe. This might be something we sell to customers at the wash. It lasts a fraction of the time of a proper, high end ceramic coating, but it could be a great user-applied or traveling detailer product. It is very forgiving for things like wind, or minor particulates and flaws during application.

phenotyp > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/18/2019 at 23:45

Do you get to patent it, or does the patent go to your company?

His Stigness > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/19/2019 at 01:02

Honestly the "ceramic" coatings are way overrated for the amount of labor they take to put on. I tried Gtechniq's coating, and while it wasn't a waste of money, all of the temporary spray on coatings rival it in terms of protecting the paint, while being much easier to put on. I switch from CarPro Reload, P&S Bead Maker, and Gyeon WetCoat. They all look fantastic and are applied to a wet car, so it saves me time and effort.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
06/19/2019 at 08:50

Awesome! Congrats! How long before it’s a widespread product?

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > SPAMBot - Horse Doctor
06/20/2019 at 18:33

348s have single stage paint?

SPAMBot - Horse Doctor > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
06/20/2019 at 19:29

Yep. I think they switched somewhere in the 355. I want to say 95's were single stage, but I could be incorrect on that.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > SPAMBot - Horse Doctor
06/20/2019 at 23:33

All I know is that Glasurit supplied the paint for the 1994-1995 F355s, then it became PPG base+clear like mine.

SPAMBot - Horse Doctor > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
06/20/2019 at 23:58

That makes sense. I looked at a 96 spider that had a respray (it looked really good bc the guy spent like 15k on it) but I don’t remember if it was clear or single.